1 00:00:04,210 --> 00:00:20,880 [Music] 2 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:23,199 my name is duron chavers i am the 3 00:00:23,199 --> 00:00:25,920 founder and director of happily natural 4 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:28,920 day 5 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:34,160 i 6 00:00:34,160 --> 00:00:36,640 am the founder of this festival 7 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:38,800 you know the happily natural day 8 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,920 we've been doing it for almost 19 years 9 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:45,120 uh it was probably back in uh 10 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:48,160 2004 or five when i started uh meeting 11 00:00:48,160 --> 00:00:49,600 african-american farmers they would 12 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:51,280 bring their produce 13 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,680 to the festival we started talking more 14 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:55,520 talked about food security 15 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:57,199 and uh one of the questions that was 16 00:00:57,199 --> 00:00:59,039 posed to me is that what would you do if 17 00:00:59,039 --> 00:01:01,120 the grocery stores closed 18 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:02,800 and it was really hard for me to answer 19 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:03,920 the question i didn't know what i would 20 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:05,360 do 21 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,119 so right after that we started doing 22 00:01:07,119 --> 00:01:08,880 pop-up farmers markets 23 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:10,880 connecting communities that had limited 24 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:12,720 access to healthy food 25 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:13,520 to 26 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,280 the farmer like by bringing the farmer 27 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:16,479 directly to those neighborhoods and 28 00:01:16,479 --> 00:01:17,759 selling produce 29 00:01:17,759 --> 00:01:19,200 while working with those farmers i 30 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:20,799 started feeling guilty 31 00:01:20,799 --> 00:01:22,799 because these were older men like my 32 00:01:22,799 --> 00:01:25,119 grandfather's age you know i'm in my 20s 33 00:01:25,119 --> 00:01:27,759 they had to be in their 60s 70s right 34 00:01:27,759 --> 00:01:29,280 um 35 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:30,880 i started feeling like well dag if 36 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:32,640 something happens to 37 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:34,000 this brother 38 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:35,600 you know who's bringing like two 300 39 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:37,520 pounds of produce every week 40 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,280 uh into the city 41 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,200 uh this whole program has to stop 42 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:42,560 because we don't have a connect we don't 43 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,799 have a way to get the produce so out of 44 00:01:44,799 --> 00:01:46,320 those conversations and out of that 45 00:01:46,320 --> 00:01:47,280 guilt 46 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:51,119 i started my first garden in 2012 right 47 00:01:51,119 --> 00:01:52,880 and 48 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,040 yeah it was those relationships that 49 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:56,240 pulled me 50 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:57,840 into this work i kind of tell people i 51 00:01:57,840 --> 00:01:59,200 fell backward 52 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:00,719 into gardening it wasn't something that 53 00:02:00,719 --> 00:02:03,040 i was seeking out to do it was something 54 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,840 that you know called me to it by virtue 55 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,169 of just the evolution of the work 56 00:02:08,169 --> 00:02:11,249 [Music] 57 00:02:13,920 --> 00:02:16,000 the biggest inequity 58 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,440 that i see in richmond is 59 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:21,200 just wealth inequities 60 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:22,720 growing up in richmond i grew up on 61 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:24,160 south side 62 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:25,280 um 63 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,360 you know when i learned about redlining 64 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:28,879 or what have you 65 00:02:28,879 --> 00:02:30,720 it was one thing for somebody to say 66 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:32,080 like this is where 67 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,080 you know 68 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,400 the homes where people that didn't get 69 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,000 redline live 70 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:39,840 there's another to like grow up in those 71 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,400 communities and then be 72 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,680 working in spaces that took me 73 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:47,440 into those neighborhoods where the 74 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,560 redlining didn't happen 75 00:02:50,640 --> 00:02:54,400 and seeing just the disparity in how 76 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:56,480 real it is when you see it in the built 77 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:57,519 environment 78 00:02:57,519 --> 00:02:59,680 you know like who has access to the 79 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:01,120 river 80 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,200 who has access to green space and what's 81 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:07,280 the quality of those green spaces 82 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,879 the food conversation 83 00:03:10,879 --> 00:03:13,760 is one where it was really apparent like 84 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,239 kerrytown had like four grocery stores 85 00:03:16,239 --> 00:03:18,480 within one block while on the side of 86 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,800 town that i grew up grew up at 87 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:22,800 you know you could walk five miles and 88 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:24,319 there's no grocery store on the main 89 00:03:24,319 --> 00:03:25,840 artery right 90 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:27,519 um so that 91 00:03:27,519 --> 00:03:29,360 wealth disparity 92 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,280 you know was one of it's one to me is 93 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,280 one of the priority uh diaspora 94 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,000 disparities and one of the most elusive 95 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:37,760 you know for us to try to cut across 96 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:39,519 when people talk about 97 00:03:39,519 --> 00:03:40,879 you know racial 98 00:03:40,879 --> 00:03:43,360 inequity is like when we start to talk 99 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,280 about money 100 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,159 and who has it and who doesn't have it 101 00:03:48,159 --> 00:03:50,720 is all of a sudden people start you know 102 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:51,840 losing 103 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:53,599 focus and they lose grass so the 104 00:03:53,599 --> 00:03:55,599 tangible solutions that could be 105 00:03:55,599 --> 00:03:58,159 done so uh yeah i think the wealth one 106 00:03:58,159 --> 00:04:00,080 is the most stark and the most the most 107 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,330 important to for us to address 108 00:04:03,330 --> 00:04:06,399 [Music] 109 00:04:08,799 --> 00:04:10,000 so 110 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,640 a racially equitable equitable richmond 111 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,200 to me uh 112 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,760 looks like 113 00:04:18,399 --> 00:04:20,160 communities of color black and brown 114 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,680 folks african people of african ancestry 115 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,639 having ownership 116 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,120 having land 117 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,360 uh having control 118 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:33,280 over the systems 119 00:04:33,280 --> 00:04:35,600 that they're most impacted by 120 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:37,120 and so 121 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,280 because my work lands squarely around 122 00:04:39,280 --> 00:04:40,479 food systems 123 00:04:40,479 --> 00:04:42,960 the way i articulate is like 124 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,600 we should we have to now we should we 125 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,759 have to have control 126 00:04:47,759 --> 00:04:49,120 over 127 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,759 our local food system and when i say we 128 00:04:51,759 --> 00:04:54,160 i mean black people and the communities 129 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:55,919 that they live in should be the 130 00:04:55,919 --> 00:04:57,759 producers 131 00:04:57,759 --> 00:04:59,600 distributors 132 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:01,280 uh restauranteurs or whatever you want 133 00:05:01,280 --> 00:05:03,600 to call it product makers 134 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,320 of the food it's like the most important 135 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:07,280 thing it's like something that 136 00:05:07,280 --> 00:05:09,759 everybody's gonna do like no matter what 137 00:05:09,759 --> 00:05:11,600 but at the same time 138 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:13,280 i also feel like 139 00:05:13,280 --> 00:05:14,240 you know 140 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:15,919 housing like land 141 00:05:15,919 --> 00:05:18,160 is really for me 142 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:19,759 the one thing 143 00:05:19,759 --> 00:05:22,560 that can help equalize 144 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:23,680 you know 145 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:25,280 the equity conversation it could 146 00:05:25,280 --> 00:05:26,880 equalize 147 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:30,000 the control piece the power piece 148 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,400 and because we don't have land 149 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,160 we don't have housing 150 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,080 because we don't have land we don't have 151 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:37,440 food we don't have 152 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:39,840 farms because we don't have land we 153 00:05:39,840 --> 00:05:41,600 don't have commercial properties you 154 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,520 know i mean all the things 155 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,039 that 156 00:05:45,039 --> 00:05:47,680 equal a healthy community 157 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:49,440 it all comes down to who has control 158 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:50,960 over the land and we just don't have 159 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,360 that control so in my mind 160 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:54,479 you know 161 00:05:54,479 --> 00:05:56,400 land redistribution 162 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:57,840 land ownership 163 00:05:57,840 --> 00:06:00,319 community land trust like all of that 164 00:06:00,319 --> 00:06:01,120 work 165 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,600 can help pull 166 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:07,120 community power back into the hands of 167 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,840 the folks that are experiencing 168 00:06:09,840 --> 00:06:11,360 you know these racial inequities like 169 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:12,560 black people 170 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,639 if we had that had those elements then 171 00:06:14,639 --> 00:06:16,639 we could start to forge 172 00:06:16,639 --> 00:06:18,240 you know the reality 173 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,760 that we want to see for ourselves 174 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,829 [Music] 175 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,440 i'm inspired by the work of new 176 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:28,800 communities inc 177 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:30,960 shelley sherrod and charles sherida down 178 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:32,639 in atlanta 179 00:06:32,639 --> 00:06:34,639 i'm also inspired by the work of 180 00:06:34,639 --> 00:06:36,800 organizations like the 181 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:38,400 agrarian trust 182 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:40,960 up in boston 183 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:42,479 both of those organizations have been 184 00:06:42,479 --> 00:06:44,639 focused on how do we do housing and 185 00:06:44,639 --> 00:06:46,000 agriculture 186 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:47,840 together so that people have access to 187 00:06:47,840 --> 00:06:49,919 food and sovereignty while at the same 188 00:06:49,919 --> 00:06:51,759 time they're they're they're housing 189 00:06:51,759 --> 00:06:53,759 stable right and they have ownership of 190 00:06:53,759 --> 00:06:54,880 their homes 191 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:56,720 uh in their neighborhoods or in their in 192 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:58,160 their areas 193 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,319 the unique thing about the agrarian 194 00:07:00,319 --> 00:07:01,599 trust is that this is a white led 195 00:07:01,599 --> 00:07:03,199 organization 196 00:07:03,199 --> 00:07:05,039 that aspires 197 00:07:05,039 --> 00:07:06,000 to 198 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,160 work with local communities to raise the 199 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,400 money for land acquisition 200 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,319 and you know the community trusts 201 00:07:12,319 --> 00:07:13,759 community land trust models at the 202 00:07:13,759 --> 00:07:15,360 community land trust as a non-profit 203 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:16,639 owns the land 204 00:07:16,639 --> 00:07:19,120 and keeps that in the community control 205 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,680 and then you know you as a community 206 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,440 member can own the home 207 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:25,840 you know uh forever long you want to own 208 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:26,639 it 209 00:07:26,639 --> 00:07:28,639 and i think that that's uh 210 00:07:28,639 --> 00:07:30,479 a really cogent 211 00:07:30,479 --> 00:07:33,440 strategy is having white folks use their 212 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:34,560 privilege 213 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:36,960 and use their access to wealth and their 214 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,120 access to capital 215 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:40,400 to 216 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:42,240 uh 217 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,960 redistribute land back into the hands of 218 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:48,240 black and brown communities um 219 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:49,520 and i feel like that's the work that 220 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,240 we're like been venturing into 221 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,400 here in in the city working with the 222 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,560 maggie walker community land trust as 223 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,879 they raise money to purchase land so 224 00:07:58,879 --> 00:08:00,800 that we can build neighborhoods that 225 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:01,599 have 226 00:08:01,599 --> 00:08:03,599 farming centralized as a form of 227 00:08:03,599 --> 00:08:05,360 entrepreneurship and 228 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,280 access to green space 229 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,599 for for families here and here in our 230 00:08:09,599 --> 00:08:11,840 region 231 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,479 like to use the word equity and i say 232 00:08:14,479 --> 00:08:16,720 people i mean like white folks like to 233 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:18,240 use the word equity 234 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:19,919 as a placeholder 235 00:08:19,919 --> 00:08:22,400 uh but i think when we as black people 236 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,639 and other oppressed minority or quote 237 00:08:24,639 --> 00:08:26,960 unquote minorities use the word equity 238 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,039 we're really alluding to justice to us 239 00:08:29,039 --> 00:08:31,360 getting towards a just 240 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:32,958 reality right 241 00:08:32,958 --> 00:08:34,958 you know equity is just a stepping stone 242 00:08:34,958 --> 00:08:36,479 like having 243 00:08:36,479 --> 00:08:38,640 solutions that take into consideration 244 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,399 the historical 245 00:08:40,399 --> 00:08:42,159 uh 246 00:08:42,159 --> 00:08:43,440 problems 247 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:44,240 and 248 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,800 what fractured our communities and like 249 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:48,480 putting things in place to address those 250 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:50,160 things is one thing 251 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:53,279 but i feel like the other thing is like 252 00:08:53,279 --> 00:08:55,760 we're all striving for 253 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:57,040 justice 254 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:58,720 you know what i mean for our communities 255 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:00,320 to be whole 256 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,560 in light of all of the 257 00:09:02,560 --> 00:09:06,800 uh oppressions that we face uh over over 258 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,040 over the last 259 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,600 you know 400 years or what have you 260 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,000 i feel like it's important for 261 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:15,360 um 262 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,440 quote-unquote allies 263 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:19,440 to realize that this is not a work that 264 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:22,000 you can like step your foot into and 265 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,240 when it gets too hot pull it out 266 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:25,279 because 267 00:09:25,279 --> 00:09:27,279 you know as black and brown people we 268 00:09:27,279 --> 00:09:29,040 don't get that luxury right from 269 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,279 microaggressions to macro 270 00:09:31,279 --> 00:09:33,440 systemic racism issues we're always in 271 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:34,480 it 272 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,399 i would implore 273 00:09:36,399 --> 00:09:37,680 uh 274 00:09:37,680 --> 00:09:40,480 uh folks to use their privilege 275 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:41,600 so 276 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,240 that we can 277 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:48,000 grasp towards and latch on to justice 278 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:49,920 like latch on to justice instead of 279 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,640 latching on to diversity or 280 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:53,920 inclusion 281 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,080 like what is the just thing what is the 282 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:57,920 work that your organization can be doing 283 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,240 to undo 284 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,560 all of these isms 285 00:10:02,560 --> 00:10:04,560 that have created these inequities that 286 00:10:04,560 --> 00:10:06,320 we've been talking about over the over 287 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:07,360 the course 288 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,000 of uh the last couple weeks and the last 289 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,079 couple of months um and even that have 290 00:10:12,079 --> 00:10:15,680 been addressed in the uh racial equity 291 00:10:15,680 --> 00:10:18,000 essays like there's so many different 292 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,320 spaces so find your space 293 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,040 and root yourself in it you know what i 294 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,920 mean like i feel like sometimes we jump 295 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:27,279 into this work 296 00:10:27,279 --> 00:10:29,680 and folks don't really 297 00:10:29,680 --> 00:10:32,320 believe that we can undo this thing you 298 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:33,600 know what i mean 299 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,560 so use your power use your privilege 300 00:10:36,560 --> 00:10:38,480 to reach for justice 301 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:39,600 and 302 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:41,360 let's undo this thing 303 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:43,279 i'm hoping that everyone gets some 304 00:10:43,279 --> 00:10:45,040 inspiration 305 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:46,560 from this project 306 00:10:46,560 --> 00:10:48,000 and um i hope 307 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:49,360 folks find 308 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:51,200 themselves in their work 309 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:52,640 centered in it you know whether it be 310 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:54,640 through the videos or the podcasts or 311 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:56,320 the essays like i think there's 312 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,160 something for everybody to 313 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:01,090 learn from and be inspired by 314 00:11:01,090 --> 00:11:29,929 [Music] 315 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:32,560 you